第1525章 善与恶(第二更)(2 / 2)

赵宁又问道:“如果一个人因为贪慕朋友的家产和娇妻,杀了这个对他很好的朋友,这个人是不是恶?”

“必然是恶!”朱熹说道。

“那如果一个人联合朋友之妻,想要杀掉对自己很好的朋友,被朋友发现后,危急关头被朋友反杀,这位朋友是不是恶?”

“自然不是恶!”

“为何?”

“如果将这位朋友的行为定义为恶,便要惩罚他,若是惩罚了他,那以后朋友之间岂不是可以随意加害?”朱熹如实回答道,“若是如此,这世道依然会崩坏。”

赵宁点了点头,又问道:“如果一个人在街头无缘无故辱骂路人,他是不是恶?”

“是恶,不过是小恶。”

“小恶与大恶有何区别?”

高俅答道:“小恶止于言语,大恶在于行为。”

赵宁又说道:“那何以制小恶?”

“以德规范小恶。”高俅又说道。

赵官家又问道:“为何?”

朱熹道:“若小恶以法严惩,则人人都会违法,如此,法不成法。”

这正是罗从彦的思想,不要因为小过就严惩,因为每个人都会犯错,不要因为大恶而姑息,若是姑息,就会使规则崩坏。

“如此说来,无论是小恶,还是大恶,都不仅仅是个人行为,亦与群体有关?”

众人面面相觑。

赵宁又问道:“那善呢,为何一个人要行善?”

见高俅都抢答了好几次了,王宗濋立刻说道:“扬善是利他,更是利己。”

“何解?”

王宗濋又说道:“一个人行善,不与人为恶,是保护自己,避免自己身处险恶之境。”

“如此说来,善也并非仅仅是个人行为,也与群体有关?”

“陛下说的是。”

“那按照诸位刚才的回答,善与恶,都不是简单的个人行为,都与群体有关,是吗?”

说到这句话的时候,赵宁的目光看向了朱熹。

朱熹点头说道:“是的。”

其他人也说道:“陛下所言极是。”

赵宁问道:“我刚才问的几个杀友的事例,诸位可还有反对的意见?”

众人沉默片刻。

胡寅说道:“若是贪慕朋友的家产和娇妻,杀了对自己很好的朋友,这必然的大恶,臣想,任何一个正常人都不会有反对意见,关乎到群体的稳定,必须严惩。”

赵宁道:“天下人都这么认为吗?”

“都会这么认为。”

赵宁说道:“那这件事,放在商周时代,和放在我大宋,会有区别吗?”

“不会有区别,这是大恶。”

“既然善与恶都是与群体利益有关的,那朕要说,善与恶,是天下人共同认为的,达成了共识的,是否有问题?”

众人脑瓜子抽了一下,才说道:“没问题。”

“那太阳东升西落,是不是也是天下人达成的共识?”

“是!”

“大恶之行,会不会因为高太尉今日喝多了酒,说不是大恶,就不是大恶了?”

“当然不会。”高俅立刻说道。

“为什么?”

高俅赶紧解释:“因为臣说不是大恶,但天下人都认为是大恶,那便是臣的主观臆断,未必是真。”

赵宁的目光回落到朱熹身上,说道:“关于善恶是否存在,我说完了。”

朱熹却说道:“陛下刚才提到商周与我大宋的善恶之别,小民到还有一个疑虑。”

赵宁说道:“你是想说,商周祭祀活人是商周的共识,而我大宋没有的,这个善恶如何辩论,是吗?”

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